Open Hunting Season Announced for NeckCar...

[Dick Smack]

Good thing Edwards' engine was legal......

What a fucking joke. Edwards gets probation and loses 3 points for what might have been considered aggravated vehicular assault had it occurred on an Interstate rather than on a race track.


http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar...ory?id=4224970

Tuesday, June 2, 2009
NASCAR upholds Long's suspension

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Associated Press

Although the National Stock Car Racing Commission said it was tempting to give Carl Long and his crew chief penalties they could "more-readily bear," the driver's appeal was denied Tuesday.

Long was penalized for having an oversized engine at Lowe's Motor Speedway last month. Long and his wife, car owner DeeDee Long, were suspended 12 races and docked 200 points. Crew chief Charles Swing was fined $200,000. All are NASCAR records.

Long appealed in hopes of leniency for his part-time, low-budget team. He got some relief, but not quite what he was looking for.

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I had a feeling that some stuff was gonna be changed. That's what I was expecting. But they're being bullies, big bullies.

” -- Carl Long

"I'm truly disappointed in NASCAR," Long told The Associated Press. "The sport I love and grew a part of has really given me a sour taste in my mouth."

The commission isolated Long's suspension to the Sprint Cup Series, meaning he can find work in one of the sanctioning body's lower levels. The problem with that, though, is Long's full-time job is working with the Front Row Motorsports No. 34 Chevrolet in the Cup series.

Long said team owner Bob Jenkins was working on a solution.

Although the commission suggested that the fine might not fall to Long if Swing can't pay it, Long believes NASCAR will eventually hold him responsible for the $200,000.

Long, who made 23 races between 2000 and 2006, bought the engine from longtime builder Ernie Elliott and said all the Pat Ringleywork showed it was within NASCAR specifications. It malfunctioned May 15 during practice for the All-Star race, prompting NASCAR's inspection.

Had Long suspected the engine was illegal, he could have loaded up his car and gone home instead of turning the engine over to inspectors and trying to qualify for the non-points race with a backup motor.

NASCAR measured the engine at 358.17 cubic inches, 0.17 more than the legal limit.

Long argued Tuesday that the infraction may have been due to an error on the part of the engine builder or expansion due to overheating or general wear and tear on the engine. He also made it clear he was incapable of bearing the suspension and hefty fine.

NASCAR countered that an oversized engine is one of the most egregious of rules violations and warrants the harshest of penalties.

The commission sided with NASCAR, saying the race team is ultimately responsible for all components on the race car, including any supplied by third-party vendors.

"While it is tempting to consider penalties that this driver and team can more-readily bear, the sport would not be well served by having a sliding scale of penalties calibrated to a given team or member's resources," the commission said. "Penalties of this magnitude for this type of infraction are warranted in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series."

It was the first oversized engine NASCAR had found since car owner Junior Johnson and crew chief Tim Brewer were suspended 12 weeks for violations at Charlotte in 1991. Their suspensions were reduced to four weeks on appeal.

Long was hoping for a similar reduction.

"I had a feeling that some stuff was gonna be changed," Long said. "That's what I was expecting. But they're being bullies, big bullies."

Long could appeal again, taking his case to the National Stock Car Racing Commissioner, Charles Strang. Long hasn't decided his next step.

"If it works just like it did in this one, then it's a waste of time," Long said.

[pchall]

It is one thing if spectators get injured by freak accident, but condoning an intentional act and allowing it to be repeated will end the sport forever and leave these hilljacks penniless. Boogity boogity boogity motherfucker

The problem is that NASCRAP is the public face of motorsports in this country now. If NASCRAP dumps a cab on top of a few dozen fans it will not only kill NASCAR through litigation and legislation but all of racing as a public event.

[bblades]

Litigation would kill Nascar as a sanctioning body... legislation would kill the rest. It is a matter of taking that leap though. I would contend that Nascar's recklessness in not acknowledging a foreseeable danger of intentional conduct on the race track is a step above the extreme danger posed by the ordinary nature of the sport. An example would be if a hockey player aimed to fire a puck at a fellow player and missed, hitting the glass. The NHL then announces they will do nothing about the matter. Several players do similar behavior, every time missing the other player. Finally, a puck sails above the players head fatally striking a spectator. The intent of the player, coupled with the recklessness or negligence of the league add up to major liability for both. Anything below this mental state can be qualified as assumption of the risk on the part of the spectator. This is the difference between Nascar's stance on the issue, and any other racing series. Nascar increased their liability and did not decrease it, they are acting with extreme hubris, and any lawyer who condones their action should be sanctioned for malpractice.

The snowball effect of 10-15 scorched Junior fans at 'Dega could lead to Congressional legislation or even state legislation banning the sport, but the problem here is that I think there would be just too much grassroots opposition to this. I don't think there would be a problem with indemnification or insurance, because like I said the mental state possessed by these parties go beyond mere negligence.

[man boobs]

dont all sanctioning bodies have pooled insurance coverage against cars over the grater? that alone would put an end to motorsports.

[Brassfield]

dont all sanctioning bodies have pooled insurance coverage against cars over the grater? that alone would put an end to motorsports.

Well there you go thinking logically again.

[Brassfield]

Needs more "Jean-Pierre! Jean-Pierre!! (thrusts bloody palms toward the cameras and screeches) Is this what you want?! Is this what you want?! "

Sadly a good number of ghouls will be grining while watching it on a constant replay.

[Iamnotwearingpants]

dont all sanctioning bodies have pooled insurance coverage against cars over the grater? that alone would put an end to motorsports.

Pretty certain that the above is a myth. No sanctioning body or corporatation would be willing to assume the liability of another.

[snake]

Pretty certain that the above is a myth. No sanctioning body or corporatation would be willing to assume the liability of another.

Pretty certain the above is a myth.
Three letters prove it...AIG.

[Iamnotwearingpants]

Wrong analogy.

1. AIG was making money on assuming that liability and, when all is said and done, could make more money than you could shake a stick at on those deals. Sanctioning bodies don't. (AIG got in trouble because of margin calls, not actual losses.)
2. AIG could pass on assuming liability. Sanctioning bodies wouldn't have that option... i.e. IMSA or SCCA would be forced to assume liability of NASCAR running a no-restrictor, no penalty, no time-limit, no substitution race at Dega. Johnathan! Johnathan! Johnathan!

The catastrophic pool is a myth.